Monday, April 5, 2010

My Opinion of the Westboro Baptist Church

I was talking to a friend last week about this whole “Westboro Baptist Church” and the horrible things they do; it hits close to home for me being a retired soldier and a combat vet, I for the life of me just can’t figure out what causes people to become this deranged, were they not loved as children or neglected or beaten, who knows, I know they aint right in the head, and this smacks of cult behavior.
I was dumbfounded to find out that an applet court had not only over turned a ruling by a lower court, but then the ordered this father of a fallen hero to pay the court costs, to the tune of $16,000, can you believe it? I would like to give a shout out to Bill O ‘Riley from Fox News for offering to pay the cost, say what you want about him, agree or disagree with his opinions that was a stand up thing to do.
If you know anything about the law and how civil law works, and I don’t pretend to be that guy, but historically, when a civil case is thrown out whoever brought the suit has to pay the court fees, but whatever happened to moral right and wrong?
Ok so let’s get to the meat of this conversation and since I am not Theological Scholar I will be forced to paraphrase most of what follows, these people from the Westboro Baptist Church believe that because we in this country tolerate gay’s that we are doomed, so they pass judgment on everyone, but I thought only the “Good Lord” had the right to do that, their judgment of us is harsh to say the least, but somewhere in the bible I am pretty sure it says “Judge not least you be judged”, so what about that?
So once again I went to the source; I read Leviticus, then I googled the Westboro Church and read where their belief stems from, I am including them in this blog, just in case you want to know.
Now again as I have stated I believe this “Cult” is the true abomination, I believe the courts that not only allow this practice of intrusion into the shattered lives of families whose sons and daughters have “Heroically” made the ultimate sacrifice are not only “not” upholding the spirit of the 1st Amendment, but are cowering under their desks and should be kicked out of office.
Ok so real quick, here is my problems with these monsters; they focus on the gay issue but Leviticus also says that if you touch the flesh of a dead pig, or eat pork you are unclean and cannot find redemption unless you offer animals as sacrifice to a priest, what are the odds that they don’t, practice that one. Also if you are a women and it is your cycle you should be segregated from men because you are unclean, yea tell that one to my wife, my guess is they are a bunch of hypocrites, but that’s just my opinion.
Finally to the gathering of angels; they are mostly Vietnam Veterans that travel to funerals on motorbikes and create a wall of American flags to shield the families from these idiots (again my opinion) I say god bless you brothers, and lastly while I am here I want to say to my big brother (not related by blood, but by love and respect) Larry Rodgers, a Vietnam Vet who rode with this group and was a true patriot, he went to be with the Lord a few months ago, have no fear Big Brother I am keeping up the good fight and I love and miss you, I will see you on the other side.


1: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2: Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the LORD your God. 3: After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. 4: Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God. 5: Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD. 6: None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD. 7: The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 8: The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. 9: The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. 10: The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness. 11: The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 12: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. 13: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman. 14: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt. 15: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 16: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness. 17: Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness. 18: Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time. 19: Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness. 20: Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. 21: And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. 22: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23: Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. 24: Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 25: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 26: Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 27: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) 28: That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. 29: For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. 30: Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God
The Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is an Independent Baptist church and hate group known for its hatred of gays.[1][2][3] It is headed by Fred Phelps and located in Topeka, Kansas, United States. Its first public service was held on the afternoon of Sunday, November 27, 1955.[4]
The WBC is not affiliated with any known Baptist conventions or associations. The church describes itself as following Primitive Baptist and Calvinist principles, though mainstream Primitive Baptists reject the WBC and Phelps.[5]
The group is best known for its protest activities, which include picketing funerals and stomping on the American flag.[6]

Calvinism stresses the complete ruin of humanity's ethical nature against a backdrop of the sovereign grace of God in salvation. It teaches that fallen people are morally and spiritually unable to follow God or escape their condemnation before him. It is seen as the work of God (divine intervention) in which God changes their unwilling hearts from rebellion to willing obedience.
In this view, all people are entirely at the mercy of God, who would be just in condemning all people for their sins, but who has chosen to be merciful to some. One person is saved while another is condemned, not because of a foreseen willingness, faith, or any other virtue in the first person, but because God sovereignly chose to have mercy on them. Although the person must believe the gospel and respond to be saved, this obedience of faith is God's gift, and thus God completely and sovereignly accomplishes the salvation of sinners. Views of predestination to damnation (the doctrine of reprobation) are less uniform than is the view of predestination to salvation (the doctrine of election) among self-described Calvinists (see Supralapsarianism and Infralapsarianism).
In practice, Calvinists teach sovereign grace primarily for the encouragement of the church because they believe the doctrine demonstrates the extent of God's love in saving those who could not and would not follow him, as well as quashing pride and self-reliance and emphasizing the Christian's total dependence on the grace of God. In the same way, sanctification in the Calvinist view requires a continual reliance on God to purge the Christian's depraved heart from the power of sin and to further the Christian's joy.[6]
[edit] Five points of Calvinism

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